Episode Summary
Ron and Deb explore the difference between imagination and thinking – and why that distinction matters more than ever for leaders, teams, and organizations. Beginning with a simple observation: young children are naturally imaginative. But somewhere along the way, that imagination begins to fade. Ron and Deb ask a powerful question for anyone invested in leadership development, company culture, and the future of work: What happens when people spend years being trained to find the right answer – only to enter a world that increasingly needs them to imagine answers that don’t exist yet?
Most people begin life with imagination fully alive. Children ask “why” constantly. They invent games. They create stories. They play without needing rules, instructions, or predetermined outcomes.
Then school begins.
Ron and Deb discuss how traditional education often shifts children from curiosity and imagination into a system built around correct answers, grades, and external approval. Over time, students may start forming stories about themselves: I’m smart. I’m not smart. I’m good at this. I’m bad at that.
Those stories do not disappear when people enter the workforce. They follow people into teams, meetings, and organizations.
That is why company culture matters so much. If an organization rewards only compliance, predictability, and “getting it right,” it may unintentionally suppress the very imagination needed for innovation.
A culture that never makes room for curiosity will eventually struggle to create anything new.
Leadership Development Requires More Than Right Answers
Ron and Deb make an important distinction between thinking and imagination.
Thinking is often about using what is already known. It is analysis, judgment, logic, and execution.
Imagination is different. Imagination is the ability to form a picture of something not yet present – something not yet known or experienced. It is where creativity begins.
Both are valuable.
Organizations need people who can think clearly, follow processes, and produce reliable outcomes. But leadership development cannot stop there.
Leaders are not only responsible for solving today’s problems. They are responsible for creating the conditions where new possibilities can emerge. That requires imagination. When leaders rely only on thinking, they tend to optimize the past. When they develop imagination, they can begin creating the future.
Communication Problems Begin When People Fear Being Wrong
Many communication problems inside organizations stem from the same pattern Ron and Deb describe in schools: people learn that being wrong is dangerous.
If someone has spent years being rewarded for correct answers and punished for mistakes, they may carry that behavior into the workplace.
They stop asking questions.
They stop challenging assumptions.
They stop offering unusual ideas.
They wait for permission.
They avoid risk.
This creates a leadership challenge. If leaders want creativity, they must build environments where people can speak before the idea is fully formed. They must make it safe to wonder, test, experiment, and even be wrong.
That is not soft leadership. It’s strategic leadership.
Because in a world changing this quickly, silence and compliance can become bigger risks than disagreement and experimentation.
Executive Coaching and the Stories Leaders Carry About Creativity
In executive coaching, one of the most important shifts leaders can make is recognizing the stories they carry about themselves and others.
Some leaders believe they are “not creative.” Others believe only certain departments – marketing, design, innovation labs – are responsible for imagination.
But Ron and Deb challenge that assumption. They suggest that imagination may not have been absent in most people. It may simply have gone unused for so long that people stopped trusting it.
If leaders believe creativity belongs only to a select few, they will design organizations where only a few voices shape the future. But if leaders believe imagination can be reactivated, they will build leadership programs that invite more people into the creative process.
Leadership Training for a World Where the Old Mechanics No Longer Work
Ron and Deb point toward a major shift: the old mechanics of work are changing.
For decades, organizations were built around repeatable processes, predictable roles, and efficient execution. That worked well in a world where most problems could be managed through thinking, rules, and coordination.
But with technological shifts – especially AI – the value of imagination is increasing.
AI can process information, produce drafts, analyze patterns, and support decision-making. But it still needs human intention, curiosity, and imagination to determine what is worth creating in the first place.
This is why leadership training and leadership training courses must evolve.
The future of leadership is not simply about teaching people how to manage tasks. It is about teaching people how to imagine new possibilities, ask better questions, and build cultures where creativity is not limited to the top 2–5% of the organization.
Why Innovation Needs Both Thinkers and Imaginers
Ron and Deb discuss major human achievements like rockets, space exploration, technology, and innovation. These accomplishments required many people who could execute with precision – but only a small percentage were imagining what had never existed before.
That model worked for a long time, but it may no longer be enough.
As work becomes more complex and AI changes what execution looks like, organizations may need imagination distributed more broadly across teams.
This does not mean everyone abandons structure or process. It means teams need both:
- People who can think clearly and execute reliably.
- People who can imagine what does not yet exist.
- Leaders who can create space for both.
The strongest company culture is not one that chooses between thinking and imagination. It is one that knows when each is needed.
AI, Imagination, and the Future of Leadership Development
AI is accelerating change across industries. As tools become better at producing answers, the human advantage may shift toward asking better questions. That is where imagination becomes essential.
Leaders who only seek the “right answer” may miss the bigger opportunity. Leaders who cultivate imagination can help their teams explore what AI makes possible, what customers may need next, and what kind of organization they want to become.
At Macklin Connection - the story in a leader’s head shapes the culture they create.
If the story is, “People just need to follow the process,” the culture will produce compliance.
If the story is, “People can imagine, create, and contribute to what comes next,” the culture will produce possibility.
This invites leaders to reconsider one of the most basic assumptions in business:
Is success about having the right answer?
Or is it about imagining a better question?
Ron and Deb make the case that imagination is not childish. It is not impractical. It is not separate from business performance. It may be one of the most important leadership skills for the future.
As AI and other technologies continue to reshape work, organizations will need people who can do more than think through existing problems. They will need people who can imagine new possibilities.
And leaders will need to build cultures where that imagination can come alive again.
If you’re navigating AI adoption, leadership challenges, or cultural shifts inside your organization, we’d love to hear your story. Reach out to Ron at ron@macklinconnection.com or Deb at deb@macklinconnection.com to learn more about joining a community designed to support your personal and professional growth.


