Ron, Deb and Dr. Bowen White
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Bowen, continuing the conversation from the previous episode, accentuates the impact of one's perspective. He emphasized that what one sees is determined by what they’re looking for. Echoing this, Ron shared a personal commitment to seeking light in himself and others every day.
Taking a deep dive into an individual's power of choice, Ron spoke about making conscious decisions to not just get through life, but to actively choose to seek light, strength, and gifts in day-to-day experiences. The discussion then gravitated towards the importance of self-reflection and self-choice, acknowledging the power of choice in shaping experiences and interactions.
An impactful anecdote was shared by Bowen about Evie MacDonald, a nurse with a profound impact on his life view, who lived with ALS beyond her diagnosed six months by dwelling not on her flaws but her lights. Her story illustrated how love and acceptance can drastically alter how an individual perceives life. She decided to give love and acceptance to everyone she met, despite their flaws.
He also highlighted the wisdom from thought leaders like Virginia Satir and Dalai Lama about love, compassion, and self-acceptance. The messages nudged listeners to question who's driving their psyche when they don't feel good about themselves and to realize they have a choice.
As the conversation continues to unfold, the importance of being playful was brought up to the forefront, shedding light on it as an essential facet of health. Bowen believes that being playful means being present, being open to all the moment's possibilities, and aiming for fairness and enjoyment. This approach promotes a bond with other people too, as shared enjoyment can further strengthen relationships.
They discussed a definition of health that encapsulates the ability to work, love, play, and think soundly. This definition sees health not as an absence of disease, but as a presence of positive qualities and abilities. Adding more substance, Bowen linked the quality of play with spirituality, proposing that being playful is all about focusing on the present and being open to possibilities.
White further discussed the concept of "original play", viewing this as an untaught skill that people naturally possess. This form of play focuses on enjoyment and shared fun, which is naturally extended for as long as possible rather than being competitive.
Towards the end of the conversation, Bowen invited listeners to accompany him on his personal journey, noting that everyone has a story and lessons to share. Encouraging listeners to engage with people who pique their curiosity, he advocated getting out of the comfort zone and connecting with those who might resonate with their own journey.
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